To do so is to exclude everyone who doesn't understand it, including people like me who know a fair amount of "cannon lore" as n00bs. Thats why he amazes so much people, because he is contributing so much to TES. Michael Waldron, who penned Doctor Strange In … But come Morrowind they stopped this practice and stuck to their own writers. But I never have heard even once about this stuff. Otherwise they would lose a lot of players and therefore a lot of $. You dont even have to take into account that the et'Ada are actually literally ideas of the godhead, one does not have to go that far. So don't expect TES VI to be crawling with references from kirkblade's works. It was before Anu and Padomay started interacting. Time and space are one - Everything, all that could ever happen, happens at once and none of it. And yes, while ES has always leaned more towards sic fi, the C0DAverse turns it into a goddam Star Wars ripoff. But likewise, you shouldn’t force your beliefs on others, and that is what you’re doing when you treat Kirkbride’s works as lore. Star Wars film produced by Marvel president Kevin Feige to be written by Loki and Doctor Strange 2 scribe Michael Waldron. Most fictional universes have a set of canon material, usually coming from the original medium. FUCK YEAH I WROTE LINES FOR DARTH VADER. For example, I dislike that the Oblivion lore changed the Tsaesci people from snake-men into humans, but it doesn’t matter if I like it or not, or if I think it’s true or not; I must accept it as lore. And yes, while ES has always leaned more towards sic fi, the C0DAverse turns it into a goddam Star Wars ripoff. Numidium has destroyed pretty much everything and people are living on the moons. Sorry, but you sir, didnt get anything, really. When he writes about "time-travelling cyborg Pelinal", this has nothing to do with cyborgs as in Terminator or something. End of discussion. He was not fully an et'Ada though, he was merely sent down; partly mortal, partly et'Ada. By treating outside material as lore, you’re essentially promoting a popular theory about lore as lore itself. But it's a lot of the stuff he wrote AFTER he left that irks me. User Polls. Yeah, right, they are partly human, partly robot. For example, unused material such as concept art, bonus material, and altered or cut material is usually not canon.“No one can own the Elder Scrolls mythology. Vehk’s Teachings) and the teasers and reports before Oblivion (e.g. For Pelinal that means what is already known of him. A multiverse is a result of the infinite possibilities that are born from Free Will. I do disregard most of his out-of-game writings as pure fan-fiction, unless Bethesda acknowledges them like they did with his writings about the many-headed Talos, as they aren't technically canon. It ultimately makes the game lore feel like quantum physics or something that only the most die hard lore fans can understand. That last paragraph was just to point out hypocrisy. For new or casual fans this can be confusing because you’re being lied to. And yes, while ES has always leaned more towards sic fi, the C0DAverse turns it into a goddam Star Wars ripoff. But they can all be considered canon because they are all endorsed by the controlling company and are officially licensed. MICHAEL KIRKBRIDE: Pierwotnie akcja gry [Morrowind - przyp. I don't mean in a sense like Star Wars which is fantasy set in a sci-fi-ish setting, but more like a more sci-fi take on fantasy. If Bethesda made all of his outside works canon, I wouldn’t care either way.“Stop telling us what to believe.”I don’t care what you believe, and I’m not trying to force my beliefs on you. If you’ve not seen the lower case c0da stuff, you really should; the artists on them deserve some recognition and a wider audience. Erethor has it on the money. This took him out of the work, because it doesn't matter how much you are good at something, but if you turn something from others to your own personal universe and betray the original, you aren't gonna be canon. Kirkbride may keep in contact with the developers but he’s no longer a developer himself. et'Ada. It just means that they are concepts personified, really, really powerful as they not only embody their sphere, but rather  are their sphere, everywhere, at every time. Michael Kirkbride has been credited on games developed by the following companies: Bethesda Game Studios, Visceral Games (Redwood Shores), Bethesda Softworks LLC, Telltale, Inc., 7 Studios, Inc., LucasArts, Sega Studios San Francisco, Amaze Entertainment, Inc., … So don't expect TES VI to be crawling with references from kirkblade's works. Published: 21:29 … Submitted by Lady N on Wed, 11/27/2013 - 12:49. Metaphors are more important than anything else, associations, and knowing of background. But it makes the lore so much more rich and the franchise so much more unique than anything else. You don't need metaphysical bullshit to explain a multiverse, you don't need Dreams and Concepts to create it. Kevin Feige's Star Wars movie has tapped Michael Waldron, the writer of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and creator of Loki, to pen the script. The dots and scribbles are what Bethesda has confirmed to have happened; the blank spaces in between are the stuff that is in-game (in books or by character dialogue) that hasn't been confirmed as happening in one way or another, or, maybe, hasn't happened at all. And we mostly owe it to Kirkbride. I'm working on a new 20-year project now, but it's too soon to really talk about that. Kirkbride’s independent works aren’t canon, no matter how much he associates them with in-game lore. So should you. After leaving Bethesda he wrote some stories based on his own in-game lore, which many fans interpreted to be canon. This indicates you really missed the point. The elder scrolls world has it's own unique set of physics and logic that no other fantasy world has. I'm really not sure, so I'm asking this in your Wiki where I can't find information about this stuff. While he hasn't worked for BGS since 2003, they still hire him for small periods (he wrote the plot for the Knights of the Nine expansion), and they'll occasionally take his writings and put them in a game (see: Heimskr's dialogue in Skyrim). But you should have the information in the German Wiki, but I think you should make note that it comes from an out-of-game source that may or may not be actual canon TES lore. He's probably just trolling the fan community. In fact, i love some of the stuff he came up with when he was working for bethesda. But it should also be mentioned that they come from an out-of-game source that isn't confirmed as canon lore. Nasu, the author of the Fate series, of Tsukihime and so on worked on a multiverse way better than this. The elder scrolls world has it's own unique set of physics and logic that no other fantasy world has. The work he did for Bethesda has contributed greatly to fleshing out the world of The Elder Scrolls, that no one can deny. "War is the continuation of politics." Just like gods, et'Ada ones at that, who are described as "robots" - this doesnt mean you should imagine them as metallic things resembling humanoid shapes. I’m glad you wrote this. Michael Waldron, creator of the upcoming Disney+ series Loki, will write the new Star Wars movie. FUCK YEAH I WROTE LINES FOR DARTH VADER. If a developer gives you a direct answer, he’s wasted a perfectly good question. His fans will go on forums and edit wikis to reflect his writings not only as being canon but as being definitive answers. Well, robots are per definition determined in what they do by the programming they received. This "community" is still way smaller than all those out there, as me, who likes something completely different. It … And so, and headcanon can be awsome af, but it's gonna still be headcanon. In-universe, these are all quotes from Frandar Hunding. But it doesn’t matter. Talos changes back into Lorkhan, and his heart is restored - but not the Morrowind one, rather it's replaced by Aka. Michael Waldron, the writer and executive producer behind Disney Plus’ much-anticipated Loki series, has come on board to pen Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige-produced Star Wars movie. Now that may sound totally alien, but thats because its supposed to be that way. I just don't see why everyone deifies him and accepts these concepts as some sort of goddam bible of TES lore. Michael Kirkbride, Writer: Batman: The Enemy Within. MK's out-of-game writings are controversial because there are just some ridiculous things in them. but that isn't the only way to describe a complex universe, working with vague concepts and so on. We still know absolutely nothing about what kind of Star Wars movie Feige would want to make, since he’s done so much with Marvel that it’s hard to even pick out a potential influence, but (thanks to Deadline) we do at least know who will specifically be shaping his Star Wars: Michael Waldron, the series creator and head writer for Disney+’s upcoming Loki series. That sounds like telling others what to believe to me.“Yes, I’m treating it as lore, but only as one possible answer.”You’re still missing the point. Yeah, I know, he had writed some stories for TES, but now he isn't at the team anymore, so I would say, his texts are fanfiction, aren't they? Bethesda would have to be high to incorporate any of them into they're games. 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